First of all, let me say how thrilled I am to still be using and enjoying Journaly on a daily basis. It truly is a unique and engaging tool with so many features for learning, improving and maintaining language proficiency. On that note, I've noticed in the corrections I offer — as well as those I receive — that the intention of the correction isn't always clear. To that end, I'd like to propose some conventions I personally use that may help make your corrections easier to interpret and apply.
Suggestions
Sometimes, the original word or phrase is grammatically correct, but there are just better ways of saying it. When this is the case, I like to preface my suggestion with "better: [alternative word or phrase]". That way the author knows that something just sounds off to you as a native speaker and you're just suggesting something that may sound a bit more natural and idiomatic in this particular context. Or maybe they just need to add one or two words to make it sound more native.
Alternatives
Sometimes the original word or phrase is perfectly correct and natural, and you think of an alternate word or phrase that means the same thing and that the author may be interested in learning alongside the original. I usually preface these with "or: [alternative word or phrase]". This tells the author "Good one! And you can also say it like this..."
Corrections
Sometimes, we want to replace entire words and phrases that are just incorrect, ungrammatical or out of place with the correct version. This is what I consider an outright correction, and I post it as such, with no notation. This tells the author to just replace what they have with what you're offering.
- A lot of times, I see users propose words with a capital letter because their computers automatically capitalize the first word they type. This may be confusing to some users who may think you're suggesting that they capitalize the correction.
- When a correction occurs around punctuation, I like to include that punctuation in the correction. For instance: "It was just a matter of tim," she said. Correction: time," (a little OCD perhaps, but that's just me:)
- A single highlighted period or comma (or any punctuation) can be hard to miss. I like to highlight the word in front of the punctuation in question and label the punctuation, often with an explanation. For instance: At the end of the school year she returned to her country. Correction: ...schoolyear,<[comma] before the subject of the sentence.
Explanations
It's always useful to explain your alternatives, suggestions and corrections whenever possible, so that the author can benefit from your native language prowess. I always add explanations behind double tall bars || to separate them from the actual correction. If there is no correction, just an explanation or comment, I put it between brackets too [ ].
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In closing, these are just some ideas that occurred to me as I was going over the corrections to my last post. They work for me, but then I'm not the last coke in the desert. You may have your own conventions that work for you. The main thing is to keep writing and keep correcting! On that note, I thank all of you who have contributed to my posts with your excellent insights and instruction. It's nice to be writing again and I look forward to your invaluable input on future posts.
I love this post, @CocoPop! You really have just been such an incredible member of the Journaly community and we're all so fortunate to have you. I'm also happy to see that your closing in on 10,000 thanks received! 🤯 Keep up all the great work my friend, and thank you for all of your contributions!
Robin, thank you so much for your kind words and for Journaly!!! I'm now entering a new phase of proficiency with my Russian and I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that this site has been hugely instrumental in bringing that about. Keep up the excellent work!
Great post as you clearly offered solutions. I have been saying the same thing and was thinking it was just me or somehow, I had problems. It does feel good to have feelings validated, didn't realise I needed it until after I read your post lol but where are you from? I never heard of the expression "to be the last coke in the desert", I like it hahaha
Hahaha, I'm American, from Florida :) Yes, it's important to send the right message with corrections, otherwise they can be counterproductive and deflate the learner. We want to inspire and encourage with our corrections!
Hi CocoPop,
Thanks for addressing this important topic! Undoubtedly, you deserve all these thanks to the valuable feedback you give ❤️
Thank you, Linda! Just some ideas that'll hopefully make users think about their corrections and how they can be most useful to our wonderful Journalers.
Saving this excellent post. Thank you for writing it CocoPop!
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year. Very good post CocoPop. Thanks for all your corrections to my beginner posts over the last year. It has been much appreciated.
Happy New Year, Ross! It's been an absolute pleasure :)
Hi Uly, thanks for this great post! I try to incorporate some of your suggestions in my own comments. And thank you for teaching me about editing as I go.
I wanted to ask about two verb tenses whose names I don’t know. Here are examples of the two: “after finding out” vs “after having found out.” Do you know of a resource that describes them?
Hi JG, I'm so glad you found the post helpful. So after finding out is a gerund phrase or participial phrase. (Actually, it's technically a prepositional phrase because it starts with the preposition after, but the part that you're curious about is the gerund). After having found out is a perfect participial phrase. There's not much difference in meaning between the two — in both cases, the finding out is completed (perfective) as indicated by after.
OK, so just to verify, after finding out/after [person] found out/after having found out all mean almost the same thing?
Yes, because no matter, what kind of verb form you use, the preposition “after“ makes it clear that it’s completed.